It. Now imagine going to the driving range, teeing up the

ball and hitting the ball so hard with your driver that

you end up cracking the golf ball

not once, but multiple times during your range

session. Now, I'm great at imagining things, I am.

But this one was hard for me to wrap my head around. This happens all

the time to lawn drive guys. And by the way, side note, I think your

penis should grow an inch every time you crack a golf ball, because you deserve

it. I mean, I've hit some amazing golf shots and some bombs, but I have

never come close to cracking a golf ball. When I saw Kyle

Berkshire's video late last year of him smashing the world's

longest drive at 579

yards, I was intrigued by not only him and his beautiful hair, but the

long drive scene in general. And what's crazy to me is his ball

speed was

233. Fastest ball

speed on the PGA Tour is cam champ, and that's around

180. Like the high 180s, it's

like a 45 miles an hour difference. 230

miles per hour. Ball speed is not something that even thought was possible

a few years ago, like in August 2022, Berkshire says on an

instagram post that showcased a video of him breaking 236, a world record

at the time. This is one of my proudest moments of all

time. I've been working my tail off for the last three years

to scratch and claw my way from

230 next speed benchmark of

235 in October

this past year, October 2023, he would set

another world record of 241

mph ball speed. This is really the story

of the four minute mile reincarnated. And like all other savants in their respective sport,

there are really two things I see that have changed for the long drive

boys. Number one mindset. When you start believing anything

is possible, it becomes possible. Something a walk off

albatross taught me. And I bring it up all the time. These guys give me

shit for it, but that's what it taught me. Now the other is training. Now.

In today's world data driven insights, it's possible now to train so specifically

that you can target precise points in the swing to

drastically increase your swing speed, which

ultimately reflects ball speed. In today's episode, I'm so excited to

share the story of two competitors who may have a jump

on all the major swing aid brands with their new speed training

aid called Speed Toad. And what makes them immediately credible other

than them both being successful at competing on the long drive professional

tour? One of them just recorded an incredible

240 miles per hour ball speed

on social and he's probably one of, like, two or three people on the planet

to do it. And the other recorded a drive of over 433

yards in competition last year. Now, let me bring you back to that original question.

Can you imagine cracking multiple golf balls in an average

range session? This is a common thing for these boys. Common

problem. Bryce and Sam from Speed toad shared their long drive

journeys on this week's episode of did I tell you about my

albatross? Did I tell you about my

albatross?

Welcome to another episode of did I tell you about my albatross? I'm

your host, Albie. This is the golf podcast for honest degenerates. It's

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in and around golf. You guys ready to tee off? Let's go.

We added chilling, man. I really appreciate you guys hopping on here. I wanted to

reach out to you because, first of all, I've been following you guys on social

for quite a while, and I just love what you're doing there. I mean, for

one thing, just so you guys know a little bit about me, I am a

swing aid guru. It's just my thing. I'm the guy at the

country club that have. I have, like, 45 swing. Literally, I actually have

38. I counted them. I'm doing this new segment, actually, it's ridiculous. I'm doing this

new segment called Swing Aid Saturday where I'm going to break

down all these swing aids that I have just in my

garage and just give people my honest opinion, because a lot of them are like

snake oil. And then every now and then, you'll find a really good one that

works. And I got to tell you, man, I got yours in the mail probably

about a week and a half ago, and I've only had a chance to use

it twice, but I love it. I think it could really

improve things. Awesome. I'm going to pick your brain a little bit about that,

but let's just start with some introductions, man. If you don't mind just introducing yourself,

I think that'd be great. So, yeah. Bryce Mooney. Sam

and I both live in the Nashville area. I'm just outside in

Franklin, Tennessee. And I played baseball

growing up, as a lot of long drivers did, and

through college, played at University of Washington, Oregon State, and then

I was a pitcher. My shoulder gave out. And so for the

next nine years after baseball, I decided to run long distance.

So I ran marathons for, like, nine years. Totally random.

I never ran long distance before that. They'd make the pitchers run

like a mile, and it was death to me. I

ran marathons for nine years and then kind of got tired of it

and figured I'd take up long drive, and that's kind of how

I got in the sport almost two years ago. Now, that's crazy,

man. I'm a little bit less crazy than running marathons. So my name

is Sam. I played baseball when I was little

and ended up getting sick and had some health issues. So I had

to pick a sport that I had to play by myself basically whenever

I wanted. I couldn't organize it around a team, so we lived on a golf

course. So I started picking up golf and shooting 120

the first couple of times out. And then within the next year, I became a

scratch golfer and made my high school team. And I golf for a couple of

years, ended up getting to a plus three handicap, had the scholarship to play golf

at college in a small little NAIA school, and then

ended up having more health issues. So that kicked my butt again. And I took

a hiatus from golf for, like five years. Just started picking up a club

again about two years ago now and immediately got back in the

long drive. I was hitting the ball pretty far in high school, and so that

always piqued my interest because I got kind of bored hitting four irons off every

tee and then hit the green. And you either one putt or two putt, and

it got very repetitive. So I started getting in the habit of trying to drive

every green like most long drivers do. And so when I came back into golf,

I was like, I knew exactly where I needed to be. This is fascinating to

me, man. Let me just say a little bit about me. So I'm down here

in Tampa, and I've got two little ones. So I used to be a lot

better at golf. I don't golf as often as. It's still a huge passion of

mine. I'm like a four or five handicap. But, dude, I'd love

to get your opinion on this. By the way, I have what could be one

of the greatest. Now, this is going to sound really arrogant and cocky, and

I don't mean for it to be. It's just a lucky shot. I get it.

But, dude, it could be possibly one of the luckiest shots of all time.

So let me paint a picture here for you. 2020 member?

Member my budy and I, two day tournament. We get up to the

18th tee, par five. We finish on this hole called pine

one at our club, and I hit a good drive, which

was surprising because I was all over the place that whole entire weekend. But good

drive goes in the fairway. I was like,

247 out, and I hit a three wood. It

goes in. That's not even the crazy part. We go in and we turn our

scorecard in, and we find out, like, we didn't have live scoring or anything, but

we find out that going into that hole, we were three shots back from

the lead. So with that three wood albatross walk off,

we ended up tying for the win in the tournament. So that's my claim to

fame in golf. I'm not like, but that's insane. It's crazy, dude.

I thought I was going to be famous. I thought right away, scott Van Pelt's

going to be interviewing me. I thought I'm going to be on, like, I thought

I would be doing Fallon. Like I was going to have to choose. None of

that happened. No one cares, dude. No one cares about my gossip, right? So I'm

like, all right, everyone's so sick of me talking about, I'm going to start a

podcast and tell the entire world about it until I do get interviewed by Scott

Van Pelt or until I do get my name out there. But I guess my

point of describing all that, so that's my connection with golf, basically,

this whole podcast and everything is about how anything's possible. It

literally changed things for me. I'm actually a sales guy. That's what I do

for a living. I work for a large tech company, and I'm an outside sales.

But for me, I've lived my entire life

differently now because I feel like anything truly is possible. And

so I love having stories like you guys. Everyone

wants to be able to hit the ball farther. It's so

funny because I feel like even when I'm driving the ball really well,

if I just focus on my short game and chipping and putting,

that would be a much better approach. But for you guys,

it is such a huge advantage to be able to drive it and then drive

it consistently farther. At what point did you guys realize, like, oh,

wait, I could actually do something from a long drive perspective,

your. Story is like the epitome of why we play golf. Because

it's that one shot. It's the one shot that keeps you coming

back. And whether it's a good drive or an albatross.

No, Sam, go ahead. That's exactly. I just read the story online, and it was

a woman's second time playing golf with her husband, who's been playing for

20 years, and she gets a nine, nine, nine and then

115 yards, she hits a hole in one with a driver on a par three

and then goes, nine, nine, nine. That was the shot that

probably kept. Her coming, of course. That's great. Wow. So for me, again, I

hit it long way in high school, so it always piqued my interest to be

like, oh, I wonder if I can do a long drive event. So me and

my dad drove out. We lived in Arizona at the time. We drove out to

California for a local qualifier event, and I got

to hit in this local qualifier and ended up going

393. And I needed, like,

398 in that set to end up advancing to the regional qualifier. And I was

like, I can do this. I'm 17. I absolutely can do this. And actually, it

was the next month that I had my health issues kick up, and I had

to stop. But that event right there was

Kyle Berkshire's first event, too. He was in that local qualifier.

So as I'm in bed, basically bedridden

for five years, I'm watching him live out the

career that I always thought I could have. And I was always in the position

of saying, you know what? That could be me. That could have been me. And

I think a bunch of people started getting tired of hearing me, except for my

mom and dad, who are going, yeah, that could have been, and it will be

one day. And I was like, I'm sick. I can't do, like, that's not me

anymore. And they kept saying it and saying it and saying it. So finally, when

I picked it back up, it was immediately like, all right, now I got to

show everyone, like, that still can be me. Oh, that's awesome, man. How's your health

right now? A lot better. I'm still dealing with stuff kind of continually. It'll

be a battle for a while. So I have Lyme disease. I also had a

traumatic brain injury, so that's kind of a battle

that might never go away. But I have my good times, I have my bad

times. But luckily, by the grace of God, I am in a position where

I can train the majority of the time. Oh, man, what a great story. Well,

I mean, it's just. Dude, kudos to you, man. I think you're doing

it. I sincerely believe that

truly, anything is possible, man. You just have to believe it. And

for me, at least in almost all aspects of my life, I've had

to almost fake it until I made it, and then it just sort of happens.

You just sort of play the role, and then I don't know how to describe

it, but anyway, man, well, thanks for sharing that. That's really interesting.

Don't let Sam cut himself short all while going through all that adversity.

He just finished his doctorate this year and is now

a. Oh, congrats, dude. Wow, that's amazing.

Yeah, I was a little study bug, so when I was home in bed not

doing anything, I ended up taking my bachelor's and master's concurrently, and

then a second master's concurrently with a PhD and doctorate. So

I was having 36 course hours per semester, taking, like,

quadruple loads. And just. That's all I was doing 12 hours a day just to

try. What was your major, and what was it again? So, a couple. I got

a bachelor's in business. I have a master's in exercise science, and

I have a doctorate in natural medicine. So my actual

career is helping people go through what I went through because I have a lot

of the book knowledge mixed with real life experience, so I help a lot of

people in that aspect. And then, obviously, the exercise science. I also have a lot

of strength and conditioning certifications and sports nutrition and things like that. So I get

to use that in my actual life of long drive and

developing products like the speed toad. Well, I want to get into that. I mean,

Bryce, I didn't mean to cut you off, too. Were you going to say something

before that? No, just throw Sam the kudos. And then

how him and I met real quick. So I

finished my last marathon in December of 21

in Memphis, and in January, my golfing

buddies, just like you, my Friday group, was telling me, Bryce, you got to see

how far you can hit it. You got to see how far you can hit

it. I run the marathon in December, and then, like, two

weeks later, my back is still just absolutely wrecked. And I get

on my club's track, man, and I put up, like,

185 ball speed, I think. And I was like, well, that's not

fancy, but that's pretty good for the condition of my body right now.

I just ran 26 miles. So then I was like, well, let's see what I

can do. This was in 2022, so last year. And so I

get my talk speed training aids. I get my light speed stick

up to, like, 145 or 46, something like that. I

was like, you know what? I should give this a go. And I create a

little instagram, which is now my instagram, and I'm talking my

third post. I put location, Franklin, Tennessee.

Like, second or third post? Sam messages me. Hey,

are you near Nashville? You're Franklin. He's like, yeah, he's like, you want to come

over and hit in my garage? I was, uh, yeah, sure. Why not?

Oh, wow. And so that was, like, last July. And

so ever since then, a year and a half, like every single

Monday and sometimes a Friday, we'll hit together. We

train. It's been like a year and a half. It's pretty crazy. Forget my ignorance

here on the long drive stuff. And by the way, you guys have a great

training, I guess, series that goes along with the aid, which we'll get into here

in just a second. But I think, how would someone

just get into it? Is there a

specific type of coach or a specific type of instructor that you'd go to separate?

That would be because I go to a regular PGA professional.

So there are a lot of different aspects of long drive. I mean, we're just

talking, actually, we built the ball speed pyramid and the distance

pyramid, which is, if you want to hit the ball further, it starts by, you

got to have the right spin, you got to have the right angle of attack.

You got to launch it correctly. But past that, you can't really obtain

more distance. The next step is you need to gain ball speed, because that's how

the ball ends up going further. And from that, to gain ball speed, you just

have to hit it in the center of the face. Once you're tapped there, what

comes next? Which is club speed. So you can go to different coaches,

normal PGA coaches for the first one and for the second one,

but for the third one, it kind of takes a special coach to start developing

that. One of the benefits of us is we ended up doing this all by

ourselves, so we didn't have a coach. We sat in my garage, and we figured

it out ourselves, and we looked at each other's swings and said, okay, well, you

do this really well, and I do this really well. Where's the disconnect in our

swings? Like, how can I implement that in my swing? And you implement this,

and through training and practice and repetition after repetition,

you start develop more of a long drive swing, which is actually putting speed at

the golf ball, optimizing flight a little bit. But the biggest thing

is just overspeed training. So that's where speed training aids come in with the speed

toad and swing really fast and then just hitting ball after ball to prep your

nervous system to move faster and more efficiently. I feel like that's probably one of

my biggest problems, is because I'll hit a couple out of bounds

or I'll hook. I'm a hooker. One

of the co hosts on our podcast, we call him Panda. We all go by

our head covers. Like, this guy just had an amazing panda headcover when I met

him and his first name, I was wondering how that

dude. His first name is really Laken. And I'm like, I'm never going to remember

that. I'm just going to call you Panda from now on. Of course, I'm Albie

because I got an albatross. And then my other budies, his name's

Shepard or Koala. We bounce around with him. But anyway, but my

point is, he's a PJ teaching pro. He's been

working with me for a couple of years now and really good.

I've seen a lot of instructors. He's actually really one of the better ones. But

for me, I guess my point is he's got me as, like, a reformed hooker

now, but I'll still snipe a couple occasionally out

of bounds. And when that happens, what I'll naturally do is then I

will try to almost ease up or almost be timid and

don't swing at the ball. Almost steer it, which is even

worse. I feel like that just gets me. It just gets the ball going even

crazier. So I love what you're saying there, man. You just have to be aggressive

and kind of swing at it, get the speed and really be aggressive towards the

ball, which I don't know, man. We'll see. Hopefully your a can help me. Help

me get there. Okay, so you guys met. You guys are training together.

That's cool on a couple of fronts. One thing that just comes to mind immediately

is you don't really hear of too many competitors. You guys are

technically kind of competing against one another in a lot of ways. I mean, it's

kind of cool that you guys are actually training with each other, so that's kind

of cool in its own right. How does that work? Well, I mean, I got

to start by saying I got to jump in here. Hold on. Yeah, he's going

to go there, but I got to give him the props first. We have faced

each other twice in competition now, and I am over two. And

every single Monday, I am faster than him. I hit the ball

further than him, and he smokes me in competition every

single time. So I'm over two on that. There's your props. Bryce. Go ahead and

say whatever Sam's got me by.

He's the second man to ever eclipse 240 ball speed. So there's

literally only, like, one or two people that hit a golf ball faster than Sam

in the entire world, ever. Wow. He's got me by like

20 miles an hour ball speed. Holy shit. That's crazy.

So when you step on the box in long drive with a guy that, you

know is another worldly faster than you, it's really

easy to press and try to swing outside yourself

and do something you're not capable of doing. And so I have been

lucky enough twice to just put a couple bunts out there right down the

middle, nothing impressive. And then Sam just happened to go out of

bounds those two sets. And so if

he squares one up against me, that probably will end the streak, the

winning streak I have. But I'm a bit. I'll stand by

saying that that's my brotherly love for him, that I let him have those even

though I didn't. I love that you guys train,

know? I don't know, man. It's just a cool story. Franklin, by the way. Franklin,

is that. Oh, I'm thinking of Manchester. I was like, because I've been to

Bonnaroo a few times and I couldn't remember where that was. I actually,

I'm from North Carolina originally and went to school up at Appalachian State in

Boone. I would get it over to Tennessee quite a bit, man. I love it

over there. So what's the schedule like?

When are you guys, I guess when are the tournaments primarily

or what's the season look like? This year was ten events

plus the world championships. The first one was in Mesquite,

Nevada, in March, I believe, late March. And then there's usually about

once every three weeks, there's a tournament all the way from Nevada

all the way up to Connecticut, down to Hope Sound, Florida. There was actually two

in Tennessee this year. And then the world championships was in Atlanta this

year at Bobby Jones golf course in like, I think that was mid

October. So it's a good, I don't know, seven month season

where it's about on average, I say every three weeks there's a tournament. That's cool,

man. Tell me a little bit about how you guys decided to develop

speed, toad. And maybe if you can just tell the

millions of viewers out there that's going to be watching this thing. Tell them a

little bit about it, man. How'd you guys come up with it and tell us

the story? I'll start with the idea of how it came about is

we had just like you, I mean, every speed training aid on the market. And

we were training hard with them. And we were seeing a lot of

progress in our speed training aids and our drivers were not getting

faster, and we were trying to figure out that disconnect of,

okay, why is this green speed stick start swinging faster?

Why is my lag shot getting faster? Why is all these different things getting

faster? But my driver hasn't budged. And we started

discovering the effects of how important it is to actually train

with your golf shaft. Because each shaft kicks differently, it

flexes differently, and you have to optimize that in order to put speed into it.

Whereas with something that's as stiff as a pole or some of these other training

aids, you can get away with muscling it, not using your nervous system

effectively, and ultimately not putting the speed directly at the ball. So

it looks like you're getting faster, it feels like you're getting faster, but all of

a sudden, you're still not swinging faster nor hitting longer drives. So that's kind of

where the idea came up of, how can we effectively underweight speed

train with our own driver shaft. Yeah, that underweight piece

is, we identified early this year,

that's the huge piece, is when you go underweight, and that

speeds your clubhead and your swing up, that gets your nervous system and

your muscles and your fast twitch system moving faster. It gets

used to moving faster. And so once, let's say

you're at 125 miles an hour club speed, and you throw a speed

toad on there, and you're swinging at 130. That literally teaches your

body to move 130 miles an hour. So then you throw your

driver back in your hands, and 125 becomes 126 because your

brain and your body just moved 130. So it speeds

up that process. Instead of just sitting there with your driver trying to crank out

1 mile an hour, it teaches your body to move faster.

That's kind of where we realized that underweight piece was huge.

And then, to Sam's point, what kind of driver do you swing there? I've got

the paradigm. Paradigm. There you go. That's what I'm swinging. And with the

shaft that you got fitted for that setup,

that shaft works with your swing. It flexes the right amount at the

right time in your downswing to maximize

accuracy. And so Sam mentioned we

were swinging those stiff speed sticks, and we were getting faster with those, but

not with our drivers. And so, literally, it started in March. I went to

Home Depot and bought, like, 45 washers.

And the longest screw, we didn't know

drivers weigh about 195 grams. We didn't

know. Is 80 grams the right weight for this thing? Is

210 grams the right weight. And so we just kept stacking

washers on and taking them off and finding the right weights that we like,

that resulted in fast enough speeds to activate your

nervous system, but not too light to where it's not activating the shaft. If

the shaft is not flexing like it does in your golf swing, well,

then it's not mimicking. And so we kind of did

the prototype testing there for months, and once

we found that 140 grams weight, that was ideal. Then we kind of

took it to that next step and found someone to make us an actual

prototype of aluminum. So wait a minute. So you're telling me that you guys

have only known each other since last. Wait, last July? Is that what you

said? I think so. Right. Wow. And you've already come out.

This is crazy. So you've developed a product, and then you're

bringing it to market. It's live. So, I mean, you guys did all that within.

Since last July? Yeah. A lot of the

practicing and trying to figure that out was this year as we went into

our offseason, after we both competed in the world championship last year in 2022.

And both were like, this is going to be the year of speed. We need

to set goals for ourselves that we think are out of reach, and we're

going to achieve them. So we pushed hard. And with that,

you're pushing hard with all the tools that other people are selling

and some are using, some are not using them.

And that's where our product is so good, is that we spent all year

training with it. We both trained with it today, actually, and we actually use

our product, and that's why it's so effective and why we've had such great results.

I love that. Let's just say that

someone like myself, I start using it consistently, and I'm

seeing an increase in swing speed. At what point do I need to go get

remeasured or recalibrated? Like, shaft wise? It all

depends on where your swing speed is at and how your accuracy is,

because every swing is so different that there are people who can get away

swinging really fast with a regular flex shaft and others

that need more of a stiff setup or an extra stiff setup. It all kind

of depends on your goals and more so on spin

ball flight, launch. That's where shaft optimization really

comes in. Play is what you're doing on the course, what that ball flight looks

like, and then how you can tweak that ball flight, because you can tweak ball

flight by lowering loft on the driver, changing the weight setup in

the driver, or you can do it by a different kick point in the shaft

or a stiffer setup. There are a lot of different ways, so it really just

depends on what you're doing on the course. And if there's something you don't like,

then it may be time to look at a different shaft. I think the first

thing you'll notice is the spin thing that Sam mentioned.

If you have your Callaway set at plus

one, if you're adding a degree of loft, for example, and as you gain

speed, you're creating more friction and speed at the golf ball, which is going to

cause it to spin more. And so the first thing you gain, three,

four, 5 miles an hour club speed, and all of a sudden your drives are

kind of ballooning up. I think the first thing most people are going to do

is turn that cog down one, instead of adding a degree of

loft, play it as stated, and that brings the spin down. And also

you get that extra distance because you're spinning it in that

2400 range instead of maybe up to 3000. That

spin usually is that indicator. How many more yards is like per

mile per hour faster? About three yards. Oh, wow.

Okay. Give or take. If all things are equal, obviously there's launch

conditions and spin and all that, but

1 going to be about three yards. Okay. And then what kind of golf

ball do you guys use? This is just kind of fascinating, especially with all the

stuff going on with the rollback and everything else. I want to get your opinion

on that, by the way. But my thing is now it's even

more important to get your swing speed up because that's going to be

like, to me, it's going to play an even more important part of the game

later on. But I don't know. And plus, I know that I

guess I'll give you my two cent on it, too. I have a feeling it's

going to probably change between now and I think it's, what, three or four years

before it even goes into effect, which to me

is like, I feel like that's going to change between now and then.

The PGA didn't the two already come out saying, we don't

support this? So, yeah, I got to think there's changes between now and then.

But to your point, for anyone that's an average or

below average driver distance wise of the golf ball, it will be

that much more imperative that they go gain another three to 5 miles an hour

club speed to make up the gap, if not, get any.

You know, sam mentioning three yards per mile an hour to

someone who's never speed trained or even someone who's using speed sticks,

because the speed gain is lost in translation to the

driver gaining 5 miles an hour of club speed with the speed

toad is extremely doable. And

in a relatively short time frame, too, which 5 miles an hour,

that's 15 yards on your drive. That's one less club into the green.

Yeah, no, it's a huge difference. Do all the guys in these competitions, do they

all use the same golf ball, or do they do so in

competition? Right now, we're using the Bridgestone e nine s. And

there are buckets of balls that sit there on the t box, and you hit

a specific color for whatever slot you're in. So that when you're hitting at the

same time, they know exactly what ball you hit. And we all hit

the same ball. That ball gets hit one time in competition that gets put on

the side for a range ball. And so you're all hitting brand new balls and

everything. Now, when we're pushing ball speed records or something like that, you'll see some

guys hitting other balls. So, like, left dash is a really popular one because that's

pretty much the fastest ball in the world. Is it really?

From our testing, that's been significantly fast. There's also a company

out in Germany, I believe, which is called a noble golf ball.

Some guys like to use that. Most my ball speed records come with the

left dash. Same with Bryce. Wow, that's so cool, man.

One thing about long drive, if you don't follow it, you hear a bunch of

stories. All the equipment that we're using in competition is

USGA conforming. So the Bridgestone e nine golf ball

is a USGA approved golf ball. Every club we go register

before every tournament, the clubs have to get measured and approved.

They're 48 inches or shorter, which is the USGA max. And

so every club, head, shaft, ball we're playing is

USGA specs. So it's not like some crazy

bananas. Equipment producing distances that are

upwards of 500 yards. Has that always been the case

as far as the shafts go? I always thought that they were like, longer shafts,

but was that like a newer thing where they made them more

conformed to the standards, or has that always been the case? I'm not sure

when they did that, Sam. Do you remember? It was a while ago. Actually, it's

been 48 for a while. But back in the 90s, you'd see guys swinging like

52 inch driver shafts. In the early two thousand s, I think

they changed it down to 50 inches. And then it was definitely

more recently in the became

48 and they started doing USGA because people would start talking about how it's

two different sports. And while it is very much so two different

sports, we have setups that Rory could go hit on the course this weekend

and it would be completely legal for him to do. Not optimal, but it's definitely

legal. I just didn't know. But this also shows my age because I

think I'm 43 and I thought

that that was still the case. I didn't realize that. I'm actually a lot more

impressed now that I know that. And then also, it's kind of crazy

that you guys are breaking records. This gives you a testament

to the speed training. I feel like you guys are breaking

records. Even though your shafts are shorter now than they were

back then, you'd think that they would actually have the equipment

advantage back then. So it must be the swing speed that you guys are. Must

be the training that kind of goes into it. I would assume it's definitely a

combination. Obviously, there's advancements of technology, better shafts,

later shafts, better club heads, better golf balls, all that stuff,

too. But back then, they also measured club speed, so we can just

range it based on club speed. And back then, in a world

championship, fastest type guys, you'd see probably like 155

club speed, and that would probably topping out at the highest.

And now the top guys are in the mid

160s, closing in on 170, depending on what machine you're

on. Wow, that's crazy, man.

That's so cool. So then what's the name? Speed Toado. Tell me about how did

you guys come up with speed toad?

We were hitting in his garage on a Monday and we were like, you

know what? We'd been training with the prototypes we had built, and we didn't even

know if we wanted to bring it to market or sell it

or just continue training. And then I

said, what are we going to name the mean?

Within a minute, out came Sam's mouth, speed

toed. And I was like, that's pretty good. And we sat on it

for like a month, trying to think of something better and never

came. Know the logic behind that? Was it

sitting on top of the golf shaft looked like a mushroom head.

And from back in my days of playing Mario Kart, it looks

like toad from Mario Kart. And if you get a mushroom in. Mario Kart, back

from my days, from being at Appalachian State, it looks a lot like a mushroom.

I'll be honest, with Mario Kart, you. Get a speed

boost when you have a mushroom. So let's get a mushroom in real life, get

a speed boost, and the speed toad was born. Love it. Love

it. That's cool, man. We're not super serious guys, so

we like to keep it fun and light, and it kind of matched that.

Just kind of fun and light. Nothing too serious. Thank God, because I'm getting ready

to ask you some really random ass questions that I ask everyone on the podcast.

That if you're serious, you'd do a Sam, you'd probably

bounce on me. And that's okay if you do. That's okay if you do. All

right, so one of the questions I always ask everyone is,

can a human being eat a golf ball, swallow

a golf ball, basically, and live? Yes. I'm going to

say yes, because that kobayashi guy hitting hot dog down in hot

dogs was out of this world. What's his name? Joey

Chestnut, too. Yeah, the hot dog guy comes up quite a bit. I've

probably asked 100 people, this guys, and it is split down the middle. It's 50

50. And I go back and forth with it. I don't know the answer. I

don't really know. This came up because

on one of the podcasts, I told panda that if we

get, like, 150,000 subscribers on our YouTube channel, we're pretty far away

from that still. But I will never tell

the albatross story again. And he was like, bullshit, man. If you're

playing pine one with a bunch of gibronis who are terrible

at golf, and one of them hits makes a birdie, and it's like, oh, my

God, it's the most amazing shot in this hole ever. You're telling me you're not

going to tell them about your albatross? I'm like, no, I won't. All right, well,

you're going to have to do something. And he came up with, eat a golf

ball. Anyway, the more I think about

it. The extraction process concerns me more than the ingestion.

The extraction. My thinking on that is, it takes a very specific person, and

I think there's a high chance of the population eating a golf

ball. They're going to die. There's going to be some impaction there, but

with certain people, I think it can probably move through their digestive system.

Obviously, we have harder and more crazy digestive systems than dogs,

but, man, dogs can eat anything, and it goes through them. So while we got

a little bit more twists and turns that we have there, I think it might

be possible that somebody would live through that. We got a doctor on

here. We got a doctor on the call. He can give us

my opinion. Not telling anyone to do it is. I think there's

a few people that could live. I think a lot of people, if they try

and listen to this podcast and eat it, first off, they shouldn't be listening because

they're not smarter than don't do it we're talking about. But I think there's

a lot of people that end up in the hospital with something impacted that they'd

have to get out. Yeah, I mean, my thought is, if you can get it,

I would worry about choking. Like you're going to spice up. But then again,

people swallow swords. Also, you've got

Shaquille O'Neill. That dude's got a big everything. Like, he's got a big esophagus. So

I'm assuming I don't. It'd be like eating a peanut for us. Check out. No.

If you've watched America's got Talent, they have the professional regurgitator on there, and he

can swallow anything. If you haven't seen that for everyone, look it up.

That dude's crazy. He can swallow blades, cut things in half. He can open

locks in his stomach. He's a guy that can swallow. He swallowed a pool ball.

Open locks in his stomach. He's swallowed pool balls.

It's a good watch. You got to watch him. Wow. All

right, so I got a couple of things to research. Left dash. That's first and

foremost. Second titleist probi one. Left dash.

If you never hit one. Yeah, it's a titleist proby one. It's got

literally just has a left dash. And if you never hit one,

when you hit, it feels like a rock. It's hard.

So, Bryce, it's funny you said that, because I didn't know if it was the

same thing, but my budy I was playing with the other day, I don't play

with him very often, but good guy. Shout out to you, cleat. But anyway,

he basically was like, oh, no. He gave me, like, a couple of pro v

ones. And he said, here, man, I only play left dashes. And I'm like, oh,

but it's a pro v one. He's like, yeah, but then he showed me the

left dash. I had never seen it before. And the way he described it as,

like, it's kind of in between, like a pro v one and a proview one

x. But I don't know if that's true. Or not, but no, not according to

me. I think it's definitely harder than a proview one. X. So it

goes like proview one. Proview one x, then proview one left dash.

It is harder. It spins less. It has a lower ball flight. And that's

why guys like us who swing super fast want to hit it because it's not

going to spin a whole bunch. But your approach shot, like you're eight iron

into a green on a par four, you're going to get another, like, seven yards.

I played with them on the course just because winter golf, it's like, I don't

care what golf ball. And, yeah, you almost have to club

down a little bit because it's so low spinning that you'll get another

seven, eight yards of carry out of those irons. Everybody's going to think we're rolling

in it. Because you don't care what ball you hit on the course in winter

and you're hitting left dashes. It's because after we

hit, we have a bunch of extras. After

we beat them up. That's right. After we beat them up in the garage, I

take them out of the course and play with them until they crack.

Your balls crack? Oh, yeah. We probably

broke four or five today training alone. No way.

Seriously? Absolutely. I think. Holy shit, man. I don't think I've ever broken a

golf ball ever. I have a bucket in my garage of balls that we've just

kept, that we've broken. And I got to get rid of it because it overflowed.

But, I mean, we probably have 150 in there that we broke training the last

year. Dude, that is crazy to me.

I would have never thought that. I didn't know that was a thing. I mean,

I compressed the ball, but I guess I don't really compress it compared to

you guys. That's insane. We found, like, the sweet spot of, like,

you know, the life of every different type of ball until it starts breaking as

far as how many swing counts. And, I mean, if we use some

balls, we'd go broke training for this sport because we'd break them. Know so

often. Wow. That's crazy, man. All right, mother random. This is even more

random. I'm just kind of curious on what you guys. You guys seem like a

good dude, so I'd love to hear your opinion on this. So are there more?

Especially you, doc. Are there more legs or

eyes in the world? Are there more legs or eyes in the world? Now, this

could be any being. Whenever I say that, everyone's like, any bean.

No, I don't mean any bean. I mean any being. Anything that's alive. So we're

including fish. We're including all of it. Are there more eyes or legs in the

world? I'm going legs right off the bat. I think I'm feeling strong about that.

Just between, especially if we're counting animals. Animals have a lot

of legs, and there's a lot less animals that have more than one eye,

albeit if we're talking spiders and stuff. That's where it

becomes a little bit interesting. But every spider also has

a bunch of legs, so I'm going to say legs outlay

that. Immediately, I started talking about amputees and people with one eye and

things like that. But I think we need to go into the animal kingdom for

the answer to this one. What do you. Yeah, yeah. Insects, too.

I think the answer is in the ocean. That's a lot of eyeballs with.

No, that's. That's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, fins don't

count. I'm with you. I'm actually with. I don't. The terrible part

about this question is I don't have an answer. I feel so bad when I

ask this because it just drives people insane because it's been driving me crazy ever

since I heard this question. And I'm like, but, yeah, I'm with you, man. I

think there's so many fish out there that we don't even really know about, right.

That they don't have legs. But there are a lot of. I mean, I can

see both sides here, man. Drives me nuts. I mean, centipedes.

Centipedes are legs for days. How many centipedes do you think there are? That's

100 legs for a lot of them. Plus. That's true. But are we counting

tentacles for octopus? Yeah, that's true, too. But what about

the wolf spider? Those are. See, tentacles. I don't know, man. I don't know if

we can count. Are those legs? I guess they are legs, sort of. I don't

know. I mean, they're tentacles. Yeah,

but they're the wolf spider. Someone blew my mind. They're like, they

said the wolf spider has, like, I don't know, like 60 eyes or

something crazy. So I don't know. Who knows? I might change my

answer then. I'll tell you

what. You go count them all, go swim in the ocean, start counting them, come

back and tell me if I'm wrong. All right, deal. All right, I'm on

it. I really do appreciate you guys hopping on here.

Let, let me just kind of share with you guys. How so I'll get this

thing edited and then I'll shoot it over to you guys and if you don't

mind sharing on your social and then vice versa. And then whatever I can do

to help, man. I'm definitely going to be doing the swing eight Saturdays coming

up here. So I'll definitely do a review and I'll shoot it over to you.

And like I said, man, I've loved it so far. And I love the approach

that you guys have. I just love anyone that has an idea or a dream

and chases it. And I love that you guys kind of came together

and they're going after it, man. Like, kudos to you. Thank you. Appreciate it. I

think all three of us have that in similarity as far as just chasing

dreams. And if you have an idea, go for it. Did you get the speed

program that came with the speed code? I think so.

Actually, I haven't seen it. If so, is it separate or is it something I

need to subscribe to or something? So it was on a QR code in the

box, but I'll email you the link. It basically walks you through

all the way up to 44 weeks, depending how intense you want to get with

your speed training on every week. Here's what to do and all the

drills. So I'll send you that link. And then

I would love to see you gain 5 miles an hour like that. And so

as you have questions, as you follow that, shoot us a note, man. We'd love

to help you out and give you tips and pointers or answer questions you might

have. Yeah, I might take you up on that. I saw that you guys were

asking. Maybe you guys even offer it. But as far as

I got the flight scope, mivo plus, will that tell me swing

speed? Not on dry swings. It will tell

you on club speed when you're hitting a ball.

But we also have on our website a PRGR, which is probably what Bryce

just grabbed. Okay. All right, cool. Have you seen

these? So these, in my opinion, it's the best bang for your buck. Flight

scope is great, too. It's $230 and

super speed sells them. Stack system sells them.

They measure, like Sam said, they measure the dry swing speed when you're not

hitting a golf ball. So it'll tell you

club speed. And in my opinion, for anyone.

So you see right there, it's the best bang for your buck. For a launch

monitor, it reads club speed, ball speed, smash factor, and then

estimates total distance. So anyone saying, like, I want a launch

monitor, but I don't want to fork over dough, this works really well. For speed

training and at the range. I'll buy,

dude, I'm the easiest selling this stuff because I'm just like, yep, I

need it. That's what I need right there. Right off the speedtoad.com. Exactly. I will.

I will for sure, man. I will. For sure. Well, alright, boys, well, thank, thanks

again. Are you guys coming to the PGA show or. No, you are? Oh,

cool. Speedtoad will be at the PGA show. All right, man. Cool. Well,

let's get Speed toad hooked up with Dit Yama. And then we actually just had

this guy Brandon on the podcast last know. You've probably seen

him on social. This guy's trying to basically

play you. Have you seen him? He's playing. Yep. I've seen.

Yep. Talking to everybody trying to play.

Him on the, we him on the podcast. Anyway, he's going to be down there.

Be a great. He's got a great following and stuff, too, man. And you're going

to be there? I'm going to be there, yeah. We don't have like a booth

or anything, but we're going to go and network and hook up some people, so.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, we live in Tampa, so we're pretty close by, but we're

going to be spending the whole week there. So definitely when we get closer to

it, let's definitely stay in touch and maybe we can meet up. I don't know

if you guys are going to be golfing while you're down, but let us know.

Absolutely. Cool. All right, well, thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Have a great

night. Take care. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. All right, man. We'll be in

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